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Daniel Ek shares that he has learned to focus on energy management rather than time management. He believes in understanding what gives and drains energy to be more productive.

Zach Dell highlights Texas as a unique place for energy innovation due to its deregulated market. This environment encourages competition and innovation, allowing companies like BASE to capture market share and drive down electricity costs.

Zach Dell argues that the current AI revolution is driving a generational increase in electricity demand, leading to a massive buildout of data centers. He believes this is the largest industrial buildout in U.S. history, which presents both challenges and opportunities for energy innovation.

Daniel Ek's focus on energy management over time management involves understanding what gives and drains energy, and aligning work with personal productivity rhythms.

Zach Dell explains that BASE is an energy technology company focused on bringing affordable and reliable power to America by using batteries as a grid resource. This approach not only protects homes from power outages but also saves homeowners 10-20% on their electricity bills.

Zach Dell discusses the importance of energy storage in reducing electricity costs. He highlights that while the cost to generate electricity has decreased due to solar energy, the cost to move electrons has increased due to aging infrastructure. Batteries offer a more efficient alternative by moving power through time rather than space.

Zach Dell believes that competition is essential for innovation and better services. He argues that winning in an uncompetitive market isn't meaningful, and that competition drives improvements and benefits consumers.

Discussing the impact of global supply chains, Zach Dell emphasizes the importance of having a backup plan for sourcing materials, especially with geopolitical tensions. BASE is building a factory in Texas to control its destiny and mitigate risks associated with relying on Chinese supply chains.

Daniel Ek believes in the importance of energy management over time management, focusing on what gives and drains energy to maintain productivity.

The future of energy will likely be dominated by solar plus storage and nuclear, including advanced nuclear technologies.